Are We, As A Nation, Ready To Forgive?

A story on Newsy yesterday proclaimed that after all of his recent troubles, Shia LaBeouf is geting us to like him again.  LaBeouf is currently on a press tour for his new movie Fury, and he has been opening up to various talk show hosts about all the misbehaving he has done.  This include strange performance art, grabbing Alan Cumming’s ass, and getting into what seems like over a thousand fights.

Here is his interview with Ellen, where he discusses many of his transgressions:

I don’t know if I’m a fan of his now, but I certainly saw more humanity in him here than I have in the past 5 years.

They also refer to this interview with Jimmy Kimmel, as well as this piece in Interview.  Do you agree with Newsy’s assertion?  Has he truly reformed, or are we just in an intermission, and will soon see him tattoo the cast of Frozen on his back?

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19 Responses to Are We, As A Nation, Ready To Forgive?

  1. flanny says:

    VERY interesting that this video is 4 minutes and 20 seconds long. VERY interesting indeed.

  2. catweazle says:

    Wait, are we supposed to be charmed by the fact that he grabbed Alan Cumming’s ass? Like, did Alan Cumming want Shia’s paws on his butt? Probably not! But we’re supposed to think it’s cute because it shows that he’s bicurious or something??

    • welcometocostcoiloveyou says:

      I think Alan Cumming was on Conan recently. The Facebook post had something about Shia in the headline, so perhaps Alan Cumming has the answers to your questions.

    • Erika says:

      I remember seeing Cumming on Graham Norton (I think), where he was apparently wearing a cock ring during the show (he talked about it, but didn’t show it; probably too risque for even British TV), and he invited Norton to touch the cock ring. He also told a story about the size of Ian McKellen’s schlong.

      It’s entirely possible that The Beef grabbed Cumming’s ass without permission, but it also wouldn’t surprise me if Cumming encouraged it.

  3. Well, I hope he’s really doing better, and isn’t just behaving because Brad Pitt took him aside and had a come-to-Jesus talk with him before this press tour, which I kind of think definitely happened. That Interview…interview (I see what you did there, magazine) is, uh, quite a read.

  4. taoreader says:

    He was really, really good in Lars Von Trier’s Nymphomaniac. Maybe he’s growing up and gaining some professionalism.

  5. facetaco says:

    I never liked him in the first place; I hated Shia Labeouf before it was cool. So I probably won’t start now.

    But this does bring up what is (to me, at least) an interesting topic: how much blame for being terrible do we put on former child stars? The evidence is pretty conclusive in demonstrating that fame will fuck a kid up for life. Those who grow up to be decent human beings are the exception, not the rule. But do we blame the now-grownup kids? Or their circumstances? Basically, why does Lindsay Lohan get a free pass that fame fucked her up, whereas Justin Bieber receives a disproportionate amount of vitriol?

    • Yeah, I’ve thought about this too, and it’s complicated. People’s lives are their own responsibilities, but when you learn about some of the stuff they went through as kids, it’s easy to understand how things went wrong. I think people feel bad for Lindsay (although I wouldn’t say she’s gotten a free pass; I think she’s been pretty definitively written off as a hot mess at this point, especially after that Oprah show), specifically, both because we know exactly how horrible her parents are (Bieber’s are too, possibly? But if they are I haven’t heard about it) and a lot of people feel she really was talented (debatable, now), whereas the same people always hated Bieber’s music and wanted him to fail from the beginning.

      Maybe we all just really want to believe that we WOULDN’T turn into unbearable brat monsters if we’d grown up like that, alternately spoiled and neglected, even though most of us probably would.

      (I’ve linked to this before, but Mara Wilson’s article about this is really great:

    • welcometocostcoiloveyou says:

      I’ve only ever seen him in Disturbia, Transformers, and the new Indiana Jones, all of which I thought were not good movies, so I guess I never liked him either. He might be insanely talented, but I would not know it from any of those roles.

      I think Justin Bieber and Lindsay Lohan are equally torn apart by the media, but I suppose she does have more sympathy. Maybe because she is a female? Maybe because she is now an adult? I’ve heard that her family life is pretty fucked up, so maybe that is why people feel more sorry for her? Although, maybe Justin Bieber also has a fucked up family. I honestly know very little about him.

      • Sota says:

        From what I have read of the Biebers, they are a pretty dysfunctional bunch too. Young teenage parents. His dad only came back into the picture after he started getting big and now apparently just spends his time partying with him. Sounds like good parenting skills at work all around. Thats about the extent of my knowledge on the subject…most of which came from a NYMag article about him which I will try to find the link for. I can’t really believe it as a source though because I remember it saying something about how Bieber was basically an immaculate conception because his mother was on birth control when he was conceived. Ummm no, thats not what an immaculate conception is. Oh man now I have to find that article and see if my memory of that ridiculous statement is truly what I remember.

  6. hotspur says:

    I never blamed him for being interesting off camera. I’m bummed he keeps getting put in movies because I don’t think he’s interesting on-camera. What is his appeal? Granted, I think I have only seen him in Raiders of the Crystal Fridge and the Transformers trailers, but he definitely did not win me over in any of that. I feel like Hollywood probably has 2 or 3 completely unknown actors who are very talented and the same size so they could fit into the costumes. Why don’t we try casting one of them? (NOTE: I will see Fury, so maybe I will have a wildly different opinion by next week.)

    • martinmegz says:

      For awhile Hollywood really shoved Shia down our throats (gross). I never understood where that came from, like did some random focus group say they were fans of his?

      • hotspur says:

        I mean it could literally be anything. He has photos of Spielberg blowing goats? His mom is hot and directors are all “Sooo, if I cast your boyyy, you maybe wanna go ice skating wit me”? He is S1m0ne?

  7. Erika says:

    There’s a photoset of him out there with the beard, and it gave me uncomfortable feelings.

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